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Setting your mechanical clock back from Daylight Saving Time

October 27, 2009 . by Bill

Daylight Saving Time in the USA officially ends Sunday, November 1, 2008 at 2:00 a.m. You will need to set your clocks back one hour. I recommend doing this before you go to bed on Saturday night (November 1st). The U.S. Department of Transportation also reminds Americans to change the batteries in their smoke detectors when they change the time on their clocks.

Some windup clocks can have the hands turned back, and some cannot. I will discuss some popular types of clocks below. For specialized types of clocks and clock systems, refer to the instructions manual, manufacturer or service center.

Hermle Clocks (such as the ones I sell at Bill’s Clockworks): You may turn the minute hand back one hour.

Cuckoo Clocks: stop the pendulum for one hour then restart it.

400 Day Clocks: you may turn the minute hand back one hour (unless it is one of the rare ones with striking).

Grandfather Clocks: Modern grandfather clocks, made in the last 30 – 40 years, may have the minute hand turned back one hour. Antique grandfather clocks – stop the pendulum for one hour then restart it. The best way to stop the pendulum is to wait until it swings to the left. As it reaches its maximum swing, gently capture it with your hands, gently move it to the center and stop it, then let go. When starting the pendulum, move it to the right and release it.

Chelsea Ship’s Bell Clocks: Turn the minute hand ahead 11 hours, pausing every hour and half hour for the clock to strike.

Antique American wall, mantel and shelf clocks: Either stop the pendulum for one hour, or turn the minute hand forward 11 hours, pausing every hour and half hour for the clock to strike (some clocks strike just the hour, in which case just pause on each hour for the clock to strike). If the clock is time only (does not have strike or chime), you may turn the minute hand back one hour.

French Antique Clocks: stop the pendulum for one hour, then restart it. DO NOT TURN BACK THE HANDS.

There are so many types of clocks that I cannot cover them all here. Many Seth Thomas mantel clocks have an instruction sheet inside the back door. Most quarter hour chime clocks have instructions, they should tell you if it safe to turn the minute hand back or not.

If you don’t know whether it is safe to turn the minute hand back, you may turn it forward 11 hours, pausing for the clock to chime or strike at the appropriate times (hour, half hour or quarter hour, whenever the clock should strike or chime).

Vintage Electric Alarm Clocks: unplug the clock for one hour or set the minute hand back one hour, don’t go back past the time at which the alarm is set to ring.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT FORCE THE MINUTE HAND. IF YOU FEEL AN OBSTRUCTION, STOP MOVING THE HAND.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT MOVE THE HOUR (SHORT) HAND – IT WILL MOVE BY ITSELF AS YOU MOVE THE MINUTE HAND.

DISCLAIMER: I AM PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION AS A FREE SERVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PROBLEMS CAUSED BY FOLLOWING THESE DIRECTIONS.

Marine or Ship’s Chronometer: NEVER TURN THE HANDS BACK. Consult a specialist before setting a chronometer. It is best to not set the hands, just record the chronometer’s error each day.

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Original Mainsprings in a New Haven Long Drop Octagon Clock

October 22, 2009 . by Bill

I repaired this New Haven long drop octagon clock. Some of the pinions had worn wires, so I replaced the wires in one pinion and reversed the wires in three. I polished the pivots and installed 13 bushings.

The mainsprings appear to be original (they match in color and style and look old).

Time mainspring: 3/4 inch wide by 0.0172 inch thick. This spring provides sufficient power, as the escapement motion is excellent.

Strike mainspring: 3/4 inch wide by 0.0142 inches thick. This spring is very thin, yet the striking speed is fine.

I retained both original mainsprings in this clock. They were in good condition, operated smoothly, and provided enough operating power, so there was no reason to change them. A good old mainspring is no more likely to break than a new one. (Some repair shops install new mainsprings in every clock they repair, I disagree with this practice.)

The case is 33 inches tall, and the minute track diameter is 11 inches.

Repair job 4955.

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Mainsprings for Sessions Black Mantel Clock

. by Bill

I recently overhauled this Sessions black mantel clock from around 1903 – 1910. It was a routine overhaul including polishing the pivots and installing bushings. A previous repairer had installed two screw-in bushings (a no-no!). I replaced these with KWM size 4 American bushings. The mainwheels were made with Gilbert-style clicks, which are more robust then the standard Sessions clicks.

The original mainsprings seemed too strong. The time spring was 0.0182 inch thick, and the strike spring was 0.0178 inch thick. I replaced both with thinner mainsprings, Merritt’s Antiques P-1956, 0.0165 inch thick, to reduce future wear to the mainwheel teeth. The escapement takes an excellent motion.

Repair job 4949.

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DeBruce 400 Day Clock by Kundo, 1950s

. by Bill

This 1950s 400 day clock is labeled DeBruce on the dial and Royce Watch Co. on the back plate. It was made by Kundo and is the same as a Kundo standard 400 day clock except for the names. It has the Kundo logo on the back plate. Horolovar back plate no. 1499. It uses .0032 inch thick suspension spring.

Repair job 5009.

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Ansonia Short Drop Schoolhouse Clock Movement

October 12, 2009 . by Bill

This 8 day time and strike Ansonia movement was probably made in the 1880s. It has 5 pillars, and the plates are 5 3/4 inches tall. The movement goes to an oak schoolhouse (drop octagon) case 25 inches tall with an 11 inch dial.

A previous repairer had very badly bushed the front time second wheel pivot hole, and mutilated the pivot and shortened the arbor in the process. I added on to the arbor to restore it its original form, and installed a good bushing.

The time and strike mainsprings were old replacements that were too strong (0.0184 inch thick) made by Usibel, France. I replaced them with Merritt’s P-1956 3/4 by 0.0165 by 96 inch mainsprings.

Here is a video showing the escapement. The motion is excellent, even with the thinner mainspring. The mainspring is unwound about 8 turns (8 days of running) in the video.

Job 4962.

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Schatz Standard 400 Day Clock with Slow Hour Hand!

October 10, 2009 . by Bill

I repaired a Schatz standard 400 day clock made in August 1952. The next day, the hour hand did not align correctly with the minute hand. As I turned the minute hand forward, I saw that the hour hand was getting further and further behind. The hour hand was losing 1/4 hour every 12 hours, or one hour every 2 days!

I removed the hands and dial, and counted the number of teeth in the motion work gears. The minute wheel had 49 teeth instead of 48! I remembered reading about this problem years ago in the Horolovar 400 Day Clock Repair Guide (question 15 in the question and answer section). This is the first 400 day clock I’ve had with this problem. It probably baffled its owners, as it would seem to lose 1 hour every 2 days! I’m surprised that this problem wasn’t fixed years ago. The current owner bought it at a flea market and it wasn’t working, so he couldn’t observe the hour hand problem.

To correct the problem, I replaced the minute wheel with one having 48 teeth.

Repair job 4999. Horolovar back plate no. 1281. Dated 8 52.

Number teeth in Schatz standard motion works gears:

Cannon pinion 16

Minute wheel 48 and 12

Hour wheel 38

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